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Squidoo is Moving to Hubpages

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MaggieMurphy said:

Seth Godin is also an advisor for the Acumen Fund. 

http://acumen.org/about/people/advisors/

Ohhh, so this is starting to smell like theft of earnings now. Thanks for the info.

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Go here for information on how to report concerns to the appropriate agencies:

www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.html

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Member since Jan 26, 2014
MaggieMurphy said:

Go here for information on how to report concerns to the appropriate agencies:

www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.html

Thank you so much MaggieMurphy, I really appreciate this information.

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Member since Aug 31, 2009

Just off-topic, and thinking about how to help InfoBarrel more. I think members should start creating Pinterest accounts, generated towards their IB articles.

I can't begin to think how much this could generate more IB buzz, and Google respect too.

I've seen my own websites leap frog up into Google doing this.

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godfather25 said:

Just off-topic, and thinking about how to help InfoBarrel more. I think members should start creating Pinterest accounts, generated towards their IB articles.

I can't begin to think how much this could generate more IB buzz, and Google respect too.

I've seen my own websites leap frog up into Google doing this.

I agree Godfather. I am removing any and all Squidoo content from my Pinterest boards and only leaving IB's and other people/sites that I know that have ethics.

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Purportedly, the "Best Of" Squidoo lenses are the ones chosen by Seth et al. to SELL (yes, sell YOUR content) to HubPages. Everyone else doing this transfer - or even just visiting and checking out HubPages - is merely ADDING to HubPages' overall traffic (increasing their Alexa ranking). Yeah, most of you are being used (and will not get 1 penny for your time and effort).

My suggestion (and what I am doing): Leave just ONE of your lenses up on Squidoo (DO NOT delete your account). This way, Squidoo MUST pay you for July and Aug. earnings (which also made money for Squidoo). 

DO NOT hit that green transfer button - by doing so, you've accepted this illegal sale of your work. IF Squidoo moves your ONE lens - it is theft. Remember, you own your content (Squidoo does not). 

Furthermore, I refuse to visit or support anything written on HubPages (sorry). The CEO of HubPages also knows Squidoo's TOS (and knows that this amounts to theft of your work).

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Looks like the Wikipedia entry for Squidoo has changed.

Now it states: "On August 15, 2014, Seth Godin announced that HubPages had acquired Squidoo."

Further along it states: "Godin announced that Squidoo was acquired by HubPages, and stated that the aim is to relocate some of Squidoo's content to its new home at HubPages by October 1, 2014.

Remember "some of Squidoo's content" belongs to the writers - not Squidoo. And notice the clever use of the word aim? It sure isn't worded that way on my dashboard.

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Member since Oct 18, 2009

Fortunately, no-one thought enough of my writing to copy any of my featured lenses. Right now I'm relieved, although later on I'll probably be insulted. The featured ones are all saved and deleted, and so within a month they should be good to go.

I'm in the process now of saving all my WIP lenses. Once those are done, and transferred to whatever site will suit them (sorry, IB, my travel guides don't fit the "two outgoing links" guidelines), I will be done with the slimy S. Fourteen more lenses, and one more account, to go. (The other account is probably safe from copying, at least, since it was a very narrow and unpopular niche.)

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So for the many Squidoo writers who have lenses, maybe even one or more "Best of" selections - who do not delete their accounts or their lenses, and who also do not select the green "Transfer" button - what the heck happens to their lenses? Are they transferred to HubPages or not? And if so are they just given to others, or is an e-mail sent that the lenses now have a new home? 

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It would be illegal for Squidoo to move them anywhere, I believe. And they'd HAVE to pay you for July and August. We could all "go on vacation" and leave one (or more) lenses up (as long as they do not violate their TOS). 

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Member since Mar 21, 2014

I wonder though if they're not moved (if the "transfer" button wasn't clicked), if the lenses will be deleted and just disappear.

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Member since Aug 31, 2009

I'm still earning money off Squidoo, strange. I'm not going to delete them, or move them until the final day in hoping they still pay me the max earnings. Probably false hope, but oh well.

 

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TanoCalvenoa said:

I wonder though if they're not moved (if the "transfer" button wasn't clicked), if the lenses will be deleted and just disappear.

I think Squidoo is hoping that this doesn't happen - hence the timing and "push" to set up your new HP account. There is less people to pay if lensmasters move content over to HP voluntarily (or rather, were emotionally coerced to do so).

Godfather has the right idea, just let them sit there (I plan to leave them one crappy lens on the last day).

If Seth Godin has the nerve to write "HubPages is acquiring key content from Squidoo." Well, let Seth Godin write it for HubPages then.

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RoseWrites said:
TanoCalvenoa said:

I wonder though if they're not moved (if the "transfer" button wasn't clicked), if the lenses will be deleted and just disappear.

I think Squidoo is hoping that this doesn't happen - hence the timing and "push" to set up your new HP account. There is less people to pay if lensmasters move content over to HP voluntarily (or rather, were emotionally coerced to do so).

Godfather has the right idea, just let them sit there (I plan to leave them one crappy lens on the last day).

If Seth Godin has the nerve to write "HubPages is acquiring key content from Squidoo." Well, let Seth Godin write it for HubPages then.

I don't see how they can hope it doesn't happen if many lensmasters may not know about this who don't log onto Squidoo very often anymore. They sent no e-mail so many just don't know about it still. I have five family members who are Squids and all had no idea until I told them because they've all become inactive on Squidoo. 

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I didn't know until you told me TanoCalvenoa. BUT, if they move content at all, it's theft.

Remember their own TOS states:

4. The content: who owns it? As a Lensmaster, you will be able to incorporate various forms of Content into your Lenses. Squidoo does not claim ownership of the Contentyou place on your Lens. The Content will be owned by you or a third party from whom you got permission to post the content.

Perhaps they are trying to lessen their payouts by making people frantic enough to press that big green transfer button. (They don't need to pay people for August and for anyone who deletes their account).

And whatever "key" content was in this deal is being carefully tracked (otherwise, why would people need to open a second account?) Surely it would be less work for Squidoo's IT guys to let people put their content on an already existing HubPages account - right?

Unless, of course, part of the deal was that Seth offered our content (wagering that 50% or ? of frantic people will hit that transfer button) and if it is "Best of" content? Well, perhaps HubPages execs are willing to pay Seth for it. Remember Seth stated, "HubPages is acquiring key content from Squidoo." 

Think about it.

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Just received an email from Squidoo - it states the same message as their original announcement.

And notably:

"If you don’t do anything, you’ll get a notice by email and on your dashboard when the transfer is completed and your pages are live. At that point, you have to click on the link and activate your HubPages account in order to make changes and earn money.

If you’d rather not have your account and content moved to HubPages, don’t worry. There are instructions on your dashboard about how to download your data so you can take it with you, as well as a big button that lets you delete your Squidoo account. As long as you do this by August 29, 2014 none of your data will be moved. [How can they move content that doesn't belong to them by default?]

1) So, if the "the transfer is completed and your pages are live" I understand they have moved our content without our consent. (Content that does not belong to them). Yet once you click on the link (to get your deserved earnings), you've accepted this deal (under duress - since we all need our earnings, right).

2) And, we still do not know if we choose to delete our Squidoo account, do we lose July and August earnings?

So, by default, they intend to move content to HubPages but NOT activate it until you "click on a link" - so you can get your earnings. [Dangling a carrot pretty far while we accept conditions under duress].

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Member since Mar 21, 2014

It sounds like they're saying, "IF we like you, AND you consent to the transfer, THEN you can have the money you're owed." 

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TanoCalvenoa said:

It sounds like they're saying, "IF we like you, AND you consent to the transfer, THEN you can have the money you're owed." 

Brilliant observation and to the point exactly.

 

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Member since Nov 26, 2010

So let's recap.....eHow, Today.com, and now Squidoo....

At least eHow had the intergity to 'buy' my articles for $1,000 or so.....It sounds to me as if Squidoo plans on simply 'keeping' them.....kind of sucks since I have a number of top five spots on google for a few choice Halloween keywords......I already have related articles on hubpages and they are no where near the top 10 pages.

I am with Godfather, these bad boys are going on my own websites....

 

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I know, ehow at least offered payouts, and I thought that was surprisingly generous of them. In my experience, Squidoo was worse than eHow. They're all the same though. People in power more times than not are willing to abuse it.

This is really good news for InfoBarrel though. They need to jump on this, and do it quick. I think more promotion of InfoBarrel is in order.

If members start setting up Pinterest accounts, and pinning their stuff, I know that might seem silly, but it can help the site gain a lot more social buzz.

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